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londoh VIP
Total posts: 137
18 Oct 2013 04:58

So giving some thought to the thread with discussions about mootools I did a test install of J3.2 beta just to see:

I installed cobalt, cobalt media and the forum pack

Everything installs ok no problem

I used default everything, everywhere.

Saved cobalt config in admin

I note that mootools.core is still loaded, but mt.more isnt

all the mootools stuff is still present in media/system.js

The section page display ok, no console errors

/index.php/community-forum-pack073a51

also no console errors when I go here:

/index.php/community-forum-pack073a51/category-items/1-community-forum/6-subcategory-1-1

there are LOTS of these msgs:

key does't exists in JFormField

access does't exists in JFormField

published does't exists in JFormField

type_id does't exists in JFormField

fieldclass does't exists in JFormField

group_title does't exists in JFormField

group_descr does't exists in JFormField

group_id does't exists in JFormField

group_icon does't exists in JFormField

ordering does't exists in JFormField

group_order does't exists in JFormField

result does't exists in JFormField

key does't exists in JFormField

access does't exists in JFormField

published does't exists in JFormField

type_id does't exists in JFormField

fieldclass does't exists in JFormField

group_title does't exists in JFormField

group_descr does't exists in JFormField

group_id does't exists in JFormField

group_icon does't exists in JFormField

... and more

I know its J3.2-beta etc etc but...?

Last Modified: 18 Apr 2014

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pepperstreet VIP
Total posts: 3,837
15 Apr 2014 00:42

Joomla 3.3 announced and already in first BETA. Hence the infos about MooTools! ;-)

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Sackgesicht VIP
Total posts: 1,636
15 Apr 2014 02:09

pepperstreet first BETA

actually second BETA and today should be the release of the RC see here

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brianpat VIP
Total posts: 211
16 Apr 2014 16:14

I wonder if this mootool loading is also slowing the website?

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pepperstreet VIP
Total posts: 3,837
16 Apr 2014 16:33

brianpat I wonder if this mootool loading is also slowing the website?

At least you have 2+ requests and a lot of kilobytes (around 320!) BTW, did you ever install a blank joomla site with NO content, just Protostar template? OMG.

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brianpat VIP
Total posts: 211
16 Apr 2014 19:50

pepperstreet At least you have 2+ requests and a lot of kilobytes (around 320!) BTW, did you ever install a blank joomla site with NO content, just Protostar template? OMG.

I didn't get your point here.

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pepperstreet VIP
Total posts: 3,837
16 Apr 2014 21:23

brianpat I didn't get your point here.

I assume you knwow about filesizes and general internet connection speed. If you know common sizes for a "page" of your site. How much "KB" kilobytes has your first page? How many additinal files is it loading? (You can see this in your browser with activated development tool (i.e. firebug, chrome dev tools, etc.).

For a very simple example the blank/empty J! Protostar site:

  • it has approx. 520+ kB
  • now substract the unnecessary 320 kB for complete Mootools

=> The home/frontpage would have only 200 kB.

This is a reduction in size about 60% !!! More or less the same applies to your loading time (in this example).

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Sergey
Total posts: 13,748
17 Apr 2014 08:39

Please, calm down people. Even if mootools become non mandotory Cobalt will continue to load it anyway untill Cobalt 9.

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pepperstreet VIP
Total posts: 3,837
17 Apr 2014 14:10

Sergey Even if mootools become non mandotory Cobalt will continue to load it anyway untill Cobalt 9.

Just as we have been feared it ;-)

For sure it will be shipped in system/media folder. Nevertheless, it is a PAIN in the rear!!! And Cobalt should get rid of any dependencies as soon as possible.

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brianpat VIP
Total posts: 211
17 Apr 2014 19:21

I assume you knwow about filesizes and general internet connection speed. If you know common sizes for a "page" of your site. How much "KB" kilobytes has your first page? How many additinal files is it loading? (You can see this in your browser with activated development tool (i.e. firebug, chrome dev tools, etc.). More or less the same applies to your loading time (in this example).

i got ur point now. My home page size is 1mb and othe section page is even 1.5mb Sergey: You should seriosly think about reducing the page size as i think max page size should be less than 500kb, otherwise the site will be very slow.

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Sergey
Total posts: 13,748
18 Apr 2014 04:46

pepperstreet And Cobalt should get rid of any dependencies as soon as possible.

Sure. We are working on this. But this is not an easy task.

brianpat Sergey: You should seriosly think about reducing the page size as i think max page size should be less than 500kb, otherwise the site will be very slow.

Your page size is 1.5Mb already gziped or raw?

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